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[The Uniballer]

So some Democratic strategist was on CNN last night, and dismissed Ann Romney as a credible source on what women think because she not in touch with them since she hasn't worked a day in her life. I wonder how that'll go over with women, especially stay at home moms.

Supposedly, Ann Romney is considered a real asset for Mitt. Great lady, great story, MS, cancer, etc... The campaign would like her to be out campaigning, but are afraid to do too much of that because they think she really keeps Romney in check when she's around and worry about what he might say if she's not with him.

[RSF]

When I heard that one this morning, the phrase 'galactically stupid' came to mind.

[Duquesne Frog]

So some Democratic strategist was on CNN last night, and dismissed Ann Romney as a credible source on what women think because she not in touch with them since she hasn't worked a day in her life. I wonder how that'll go over with women, especially stay at home moms.

I didn't see it, but I'm guessing he was trying to make hay with the "multiple Cadillacs" stereotype that Mitt unwittingly put on his wife.

That said, if you ever want to piss my mom off, tell her that she didn't work ...

[The Uniballer]

I should have mentioned that the strategist was a woman.

[NewfoundlandFrog]

I should have mentioned that the strategist was a woman.

She was trying to make the point that Ann hasn't had to juggle work and family in the way the majority of American women have to. But you know, a better way might have been to say: "Ann hasn't had to juggle work and family in the way the majority of American women have to and probably doesn't understand the difficulties of the average mother as well as she might."

Saying she "hasn't worked" is, as said above, galactically stupid. Universally stupid, even.

[RSF]

I should have mentioned that the strategist was a woman.

and 'reads the other magazine'.


Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[pcf]

When I heard that one this morning, the phrase 'galactically stupid' came to mind.

It is a loser for Romney to respond. The more you examine the Romney lifestyle, the worse it is for Romney. She's probably a nice lady, but she's not a typical stay at home mom. First of all, they have more homes than most people have kids. She's not exactly clipping coupons.

I personally don't care what she does, but you can't have a domestic staff and ride a quarter million dollars worth of horses all day and then tell people how mean Democrats are to stay at home moms like Ann Romney. The only people who would be offended are Republicans looking for offense.

At the other end, women working outside the home aren't going to feel that Ann Romney speaks for them.

Rich people in politics have a few angles they can play. One, they can be wealthy and motivated to fight against injustice as a sort of noblesse oblige. Two, they can be looking to spread wealth via their expertise. Three, they can play the role of the person who cannot be corrupted by money.

What they cannot do is sell themselves as non-elite when they have been inside a privileged bubble from day one.

Frankly, that's Romney's real problem. He's awkwardly trying to connect to people that he doesn't know or understand. Romney doesn't have an inspiring personal story. He was born into privilege and is seeking personal achievement to give sense and meaning to his life. There's nothing he actually wants to accomplish in governance.

When I think of Romney, I don't feel there's any issue or ideology that matters. He's just another wealthy scion that needs to achieve for personal fulfillment. At least with Santorum you felt like he had something that mattered to him. With Romney, I feel like he would move to another country if he could run it.

[RSF]

It is a loser for Romney to respond. The more you examine the Romney lifestyle, the worse it is for Romney. She's probably a nice lady, but she's not a typical stay at home mom. First of all, they have more homes than most people have kids. She's not exactly clipping coupons.

I personally don't care what she does, but you can't have a domestic staff and ride a quarter million dollars worth of horses all day and then tell people how mean Democrats are to stay at home moms like Ann Romney. The only people who would be offended are Republicans looking for offense.

At the other end, women working outside the home aren't going to feel that Ann Romney speaks for them.

Rich people in politics have a few angles they can play. One, they can be wealthy and motivated to fight against injustice as a sort of noblesse oblige. Two, they can be looking to spread wealth via their expertise. Three, they can play the role of the person who cannot be corrupted by money.

What they cannot do is sell themselves as non-elite when they have been inside a privileged bubble from day one.

None of which changes or refutes the fact that it was a really dumb comment. The Obama campaign and the DNC, to their credit, recognize that.

[pcf]

None of which changes or refutes the fact that it was a really dumb comment. The Obama campaign and the DNC, to their credit, recognize that.

It was only stupid because it seemed personal against a nice lady. It wasn't a broader issue.

Once again, if Romney tries to connect with women voters, he'd better do it on a reasonable intellectual basis.

[pcf]

and 'reads the other magazine'.


Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Strange you even bring it up.

[The Uniballer]

It was only stupid because it seemed personal against a nice lady. It wasn't a broader issue.

Once again, if Romney tries to connect with women voters, he'd better do it on a reasonable intellectual basis.

It was a stupid thing to say because it was unneccessary, uncivil, and untrue.
I think women connect with Ann Romney and vice versa quite easily.

[RSF]

Strange you even bring it up.

I'm all about non-sequiturs. Shocked you haven't figured that out by now.

[gohornedfrogs]

None of which changes or refutes the fact that it was a really dumb comment. The Obama campaign and the DNC, to their credit, recognize that.

Even if demagogues like pcf don't.

[pcf]

I think women connect with Ann Romney and vice versa quite easily.

On what level?

Hillary connected with women, but there are a lot of women who hate her. I think Ann Romney seems like a nice lady, but I don't know what they connect with politically.

[gohornedfrogs]

It was only stupid because it seemed personal against a nice lady. It wasn't a broader issue.

Once again, if Romney tries to connect with women voters, he'd better do it on a reasonable intellectual basis.

I'm sure his campaign managers will be in a rush to get your take on the best strategy.

[pcf]

Even if demagogues like pcf don't.

It would be more honest to say that I think it is male Republicans looking for an angle to create a controversy and that I doubt many independent stay at home moms actually care what the strategist or Ann Romney think or do.

If we look at who is offended in this thread, it is 3 Republican voters. Big whoop.

[RSF]

It would be more honest to say that I think it is male Republicans looking for an angle to create a controversy and that I doubt many independent stay at home moms actually care what the strategist or Ann Romney think or do.

If we look at who is offended in this thread, it is 3 Republican voters. Big whoop.

Is Newf a Republican voter now?


I'm assuming I'm one of those 3 (giggle) which is funny because I wasn't offended. I just said it was a stupid comment. Which it was. You're the one blowing it out of proportion. Which is what you like to do. Everybody needs a hobby.

[pcf]

I'm sure his campaign managers will be in a rush to get your take on the best strategy.

They ought to. I see the trap even if they don't. Does the Romney campaign really want to spend time talking about dressage awards and expensive horses? All their homes? Domestic staff?

[The Uniballer]

On what level?

She's a stay at home mother of 5 who is now a grandmother. Suffers from MS and underwent treatment for breast cancer. Seems like a really nice lady. She's involved in her church. Married her high school sweetheart. For starters...

[The Uniballer]

I wasn't offended. I just said it was a stupid comment. Which it was.

Ditto and ditto. An unforced error.