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Perhaps the criminals are the people trademarking his name and trying to make political points out of this unfortunate set of events.
No, those are [Craig James] holes, not criminals. There's a difference. A criminal is someone that breaks the law, like killing a 17 year old unarmed kid. An [Craig James] hole is someone that tries to profit off it, or tries to defend it.
Note that this is in reference to Martin’s parents. I would never pretend to understand what it must be like to lose a child, I don’t think any of us should speak to that. I DO however, feel that the NBP are acting criminally. They are a terrorist organization though, so it kinda goes without saying.
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Todd D., you miss the point. When this story broke, some here attacked Zimmerman. In fact the msm attacked him as some racist white nut job.
The context of racism is not in criticism of Zimmerman. Though again, [Craig James] holes might want to pin it there. It’s pretty clear that Zimmerman has a number of issues, prejudice might be one of them, but I don’t think that he is a Klansman or anything of the sort. The greater accusation of racism comes from the actions of the police, set in a backdrop of both a country and a region that has a LOOOOONG history of police officers treating people differently based on their ethnicity.
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Turns out, Z is not some racist white nut job and T is far from being some innocent little boy.
It’s becoming increasingly obvious that the use of lethal force against Martin was unjustified. Whether or not Martin had been suspended from school for marijuana is pretty irrelevant to that discussion.
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Poison Arrow has made some highly insightful and informed posts about how the Sanford police were obeying the law when they did not immediately arrest Z.
Perhaps they were, perhaps they weren’t, but the absolute core of issue here is: People have been arrested on far less than the evidence against Zimmerman.
Put it this way: Let's imagine that Trayvon is the same age, but a white girl. Blonde hair blue eyes, cheerleader, you know the type. Then imagine Zimmerman is a 300 lb black dude with his same history. Same situation. You think he goes free like Zimmerman did because the cops take his self-defense claim at his word? Do you think the cops "wait and see how the facts of the case play out" befor arresting him? Not a chance in hell. That dude would be in a cell right now if he was black and the dead person was white, and the burden of proof for self-defense would be a lot more than "Well we don't know all the facts and we can't really conclusively prove that he DIDN'T act in self defense so what do you want us to do?". THAT'S where the accusation of racism is coming in, that the cops applied a double standard based on the ethnic background of the victim. That's a very very big problem, wouldn't you say?
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As far as WD "celebrating" the death of TM, go ahead and quote him doing so. Or take your disgusting lies elsewhere. I won't hold my breath.
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You claimed WD "celebrated" the death of TM at the start of this thread. Know what's "abhorrent"? That kind of an accusation. Now prove he said it or prove your intellectual dishonesty.
Try reading my post again. My quote was “What kind of a man are you that celebrates, or even tries to justify, an unarmed 17 year old being shot and killed?”. I stand by it. What kind of a man does that? Why are you bending over backwards to try and justify an unarmed 17 year old kid with no violent background being shot and killed by someone that initiated a confrontation with him?
Just take a step back and think about it: A 140 lb kid that had just turned 17 was shot and killed in his father’s neighborhood by a 28 year old because he “looked suspicious”. Take out all the sensationalist media nonsense, take out all the moronic ramblings of Sharpton or any of the other sh-t stirrers or race baiters. A high schooler carrying an Iced Tea is dead for pretty much no reason at all. Now there are people, in this thread alone, trying to blame the 17 year old, or claim that Zimmerman was justified to do what he did? Come on/
As for WD’s “celebrating / defending” it specifically: The OP of THIS THREAD is meaningless mudslinging regarding Martin’s Twitter handle as well as school suspensions, again trying to cast doubt over whether Martin was some aggressive criminal. Here are some other specific WD quotes:
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.........the FACTS will show that Zimmerman approached the guy, spoke to him, left it at that , turned and started walking away. Thats when Martin struck Zimmermans head from behind with a bottle and began attacking him.
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There is a reason why Zimmerman was never charged or sat one minute in jail. DUH !!!
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Speaking of gun toting and crime. Hey PCF......whatcha think of these stats?
(What followed was a long post about how blacks commit more crime than whites)
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its looking more and more like Zimmerman may well be innocent.
These are just a few, I can provide more if you like. Yes, it appears to me that WD is trying to defend the death of Martin as justified.
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Thats weird...........I didnt realize the local drug store were the ones that pulled the trigger on Martin. Or........could it be we are watching a bunch of thief lowlifes using a persons death as an OPPORTUNITY. You know.....like those in the main stream media and race baiting politicians have. Those thieving kids had some good teachers I guess.
Todd D., on 27 March 2012 - 02:46 PM, said:
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