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#381 The Uniballer

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 07:59 AM

Over the last several weeks, the board has had discussions on some of the most controversial topics around -- topics that elicit strong emotions on both sides. There have been several instances of passionate, but civil discourse during those weeks, and plenty of instances where the discourse was anything but civil. This board is infinitely more enjoyable and educational when it's civil. I wish everyone would make a committment to keep things civil -- not worrying about how anyone else is acting, but taking personal responsibility and acting the right way.





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Posted 03 March 2012 - 08:04 AM

-- not worrying about how anyone else is acting, but taking personal responsibility and acting the right way.


:ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy: :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Ever hear the old saying about taking your own advice? :wink:


Lemme tell ya something about advice Uni. One has to be willing to RECEIVE it as well as give it.
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 08:11 AM

Sure man, here you go:
http://www.dallasnew...ower-plants.ece

In fact, after closing, the production capacity in Texas will fall below our peak demand days from last summer. When the a/c goes off next summer and food wastes and the elderly have heat strokes, we will see how it affects us. From what I understand, 5 plants in Penn are supposed to close over the next few years. Where is the extra electricity going to come from to power the chevy volt's?

Now, you need to re-read your last sentence. Unsupported? You just might want to take a little peak at what is going on in Europe right now. the messiah loves european style socialism...you know that. It's really not that hard to see where we are headed...and smarter folks than both of us point it out constantly.


That link doesn't really support any of your claims. It doesn't claim that coal-fired plants have declined and only claims that they might, if the owners decide against going with cleaner coal (which isn't really all that clean, but is relatively better). Personally, I'm willing to pay a little more for cleaner energy production.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 08:14 AM

Professional managerial training teaches us to always be very suspicious of those who speak out first under pressure.


Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them... Everything exposed by the light becomes visible.


Unfortunately, professional managerial training did not teach you to be civil.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 08:20 AM

You really blaming Obama for ethanol subsidies? And I'm not sure how a desire for clean air is a "belief" so much as a policy, but again, aside from Keystone, the enviro folks aren't exactly thrilled with Obama. Not hard to find criticism from the left on Obama's environmental policy. So while you may feel he's been forcing his beliefs on you, they certainly don't feel like he's been forcing their beliefs on you ...

Also would like to see a bit of data on your coal plant claim. Even if the total number is down, is it because of EPA regulations, or because they're old? Many reasons why a plant might be shut down.



Again you conflate policy (and unsupported assertions about their eventual effect) with beliefs.

Duq, as I read that , what he actually is saying is that Obama has enforced upon him a belief in supply and demand.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 08:21 AM

Are you dipping into your samples this afternoon?
Hope your not driving home.


he is a pathologist..... are you suggesting that he is snorting formaldahyde?
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 08:22 AM

Some people will never get it.

Its not the opinions they espouse that makes them pariahs. Its the manner in which they do it, and it forces us to respond accordingly. Empahsis on 'respond'.

I could easily hit the report button several times a day. Instead I can count on one hand I've done so because I'd rather fight muy own battles. Some can dish it out but can't take it. Really that simple.
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 08:22 AM

One good thing.........least nobody can blame THIS ONE on ole Whiskey Dude! :laugh: Ive pretty much stayed out of this one for the most part.


See,.........I leave you kids alone for 5 minutes and all hell breaks loose! Damn kids anyway! You know,......if some of you would be more the caring ,compassionate, civil type as I am we wouldnt have these kind of problems. Ive tried to be an example for you kids, but like a man standing in front of the ocean attempting to push back the tide its been an uphill battle all the way. I can only do just so much you see.......:biggrin:
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

Thomas Jefferson

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 08:23 AM

That link doesn't really support any of your claims. It doesn't claim that coal-fired plants have declined and only claims that they might, if the owners decide against going with cleaner coal (which isn't really all that clean, but is relatively better). Personally, I'm willing to pay a little more for cleaner energy production.


You rich guys are all alike. :biggrin: :rolleyes:
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Posted 03 March 2012 - 08:24 AM

You really blaming Obama for ethanol subsidies? And I'm not sure how a desire for clean air is a "belief" so much as a policy, but again, aside from Keystone, the enviro folks aren't exactly thrilled with Obama. Not hard to find criticism from the left on Obama's environmental policy. So while you may feel he's been forcing his beliefs on you, they certainly don't feel like he's been forcing their beliefs on you ...

Also would like to see a bit of data on your coal plant claim. Even if the total number is down, is it because of EPA regulations, or because they're old? Many reasons why a plant might be shut down.



Again you conflate policy (and unsupported assertions about their eventual effect) with beliefs.




it is the illuminati....... shhh.....





He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you. --Friedrich Nietzche

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 08:27 AM



it is the illuminati....... shhh.....






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"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

Thomas Jefferson

#392 KillerFrog InD KitchenSink

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 08:36 AM

Over the last several weeks, the board has had discussions on some of the most controversial topics around -- topics that elicit strong emotions on both sides. There have been several instances of passionate, but civil discourse during those weeks, and plenty of instances where the discourse was anything but civil. This board is infinitely more enjoyable and educational when it's civil. I wish everyone would make a committment to keep things civil -- not worrying about how anyone else is acting, but taking personal responsibility and acting the right way.


Love the discussions/debates that are civil.

It's really not that hard.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 09:56 AM

One good thing.........least nobody can blame THIS ONE on ole Whiskey Dude! :laugh: Ive pretty much stayed out of this one for the most part.


See,.........I leave you kids alone for 5 minutes and all hell breaks loose! Damn kids anyway! You know,......if some of you would be more the caring ,compassionate, civil type as I am we wouldnt have these kind of problems. Ive tried to be an example for you kids, but like a man standing in front of the ocean attempting to push back the tide its been an uphill battle all the way. I can only do just so much you see.......:biggrin:

For once I am proud of Whiskey (surprised, but proud) because he resisted the temptation to make a bad thread worse.:happy:

#394 Whisky Dude

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 10:18 AM

For once I am proud of Whiskey (surprised, but proud) because he resisted the temptation to make a bad thread worse.:happy:


Im proud of you too Scribe! :biggrin:


Hey. im a GOOD GUY! When Im sleeping that is! :wink: Problem is, eventually I wake up! :laugh:
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

Thomas Jefferson

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 11:26 AM

Some people will never get it.

Its not the opinions they espouse that makes them pariahs. Its the manner in which they do it, and it forces us to respond accordingly. Empahsis on 'respond'.

I could easily hit the report button several times a day. Instead I can count on one hand I've done so because I'd rather fight muy own battles. Some can dish it out but can't take it. Really that simple.


+1, or perhaps even a million.

and perhaps I shouldn't have given up alcohol for Lent, because it is more difficult to just overlook ridiculous posts in the evening.
He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you. --Friedrich Nietzche

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 04:58 PM

That link doesn't really support any of your claims. It doesn't claim that coal-fired plants have declined and only claims that they might, if the owners decide against going with cleaner coal (which isn't really all that clean, but is relatively better). Personally, I'm willing to pay a little more for cleaner energy production.

Well actually it does but there is more to the story. TXU, the biggest provider in Texas, proposed to build 6 more coal fired plants. They initially got approval. Wanna guess what happened next? Hint: It has something to do with enviro-nazis, lawyers, tougher EPA regulations, and a democrat activist judge.

Now, it does indeed say that coal fired plants are declining. You did not that a few around Pennsylvania are closing up in the next few years? Sure hope there is some replacement for the electricity on the near horizon. Bet you do to.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 05:11 PM

Well actually it does but there is more to the story. TXU, the biggest provider in Texas, proposed to build 6 more coal fired plants. They initially got approval. Wanna guess what happened next? Hint: It has something to do with enviro-nazis, lawyers, tougher EPA regulations, and a democrat activist judge.

Now, it does indeed say that coal fired plants are declining. You did not that a few around Pennsylvania are closing up in the next few years? Sure hope there is some replacement for the electricity on the near horizon. Bet you do to.


It would be neat if we could find a new source for natural gas to generate electricity. Where in the fracking world would we find that, though?

For that matter, what about if we would guarantee some investment in new nuclear plants?


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