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[purpledawg]

Ruling, please. FruFru dog or not:

[Poison Arrow Frog]

I vote yes!

[weklfrog]

No question about it.

My wife wanted a fru fru dog for years and I finally broke down and got her a Shih Tzu.  The first one actually turned out bigger than we expected at about 17 pounds (12 pounds of hair and 5 pounds of dog), almost too big for I Love You I Love You.  The current one is about 12 pounds and is definitely fru fru.  Can't find a sweeter dog though.

on edit:  I typically do not use an "r" for fru fru but the idiot censorbot changed fru (without the "r") to "I Love You"  How stupid is that?

[Poison Arrow Frog]

weklfrog, on 19 January 2012 - 12:47 PM, said:

No question about it.

My wife wanted a fru fru dog for years and I finally broke down and got her a Shih Tzu.  The first one actually turned out bigger than we expected at about 17 pounds (12 pounds of hair and 5 pounds of dog), almost too big for I Love You I Love You.  The current one is about 12 pounds and is definitely fru fru.  Can't find a sweeter dog though.

on edit:  I typically do not use an "r" for fru fru but the idiot censorbot changed fru (without the "r") to "I Love You"  How studid is that?

so.......... you are saying the poundage of said animal affects its frufruness?  How do you know the poundage of the animal in the photo?

[weklfrog]

Poison Arrow Frog, on 19 January 2012 - 01:00 PM, said:

so.......... you are saying the poundage of said animal affects its frufruness?  How do you know the poundage of the animal in the photo?

2 pounds of dog, 2 pounds of eye, and 4 pounds of hair.

[FinanceFrog]

purpledawg, on 19 January 2012 - 12:27 PM, said:

Ruling, please. FruFru dog or not:

not fru fru at all, just a bad angle.  you've never seen his mean face or heard him bark.  he's the opposite of fru fru, whatever that is.

[purpledawg]

FinanceFrog, on 19 January 2012 - 01:54 PM, said:

not fru fru at all, just a bad angle.  you've never seen his mean face or heard him bark.  he's the opposite of fru fru, whatever that is.

Badass? I don't think so. And, no one would have remembered that he was your little fru fru doggy until you opened your big mouth. Just deal with the stigma, Little Dog Man.

[NewfoundlandFrog]

Poison Arrow Frog, on 19 January 2012 - 12:31 PM, said:

I vote yes!

I used to know a woman at TCU who had a mop or perhaps it was a Yorkshire terrier. When it was sleeping you couldn't tell which was the front and which was the back. I used to throw paper balls at it and take bets on which end would be the head when it ran away.

She did not think I took her dog seriously when I did this.

(Do you remember Karen's dog wekl??? What a useless bunch of fur.)

[weklfrog]

NewfoundlandFrog, on 19 January 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

(Do you remember Karen's dog wekl??? What a useless bunch of fur.)

Karen named her dog "wekl"?

[FinanceFrog]

purpledawg, on 19 January 2012 - 02:18 PM, said:

Little Dog Man.

i got a little dog to compensate for other larger things.

[NewfoundlandFrog]

weklfrog, on 19 January 2012 - 03:44 PM, said:

Karen named her dog "wekl"?

More likely, "Wally".

[Poison Arrow Frog]

Frufru dogs are gay!

[purpledawg]

Poison Arrow Frog, on 19 January 2012 - 05:04 PM, said:

Frufru dogs are gay!

Just came back from the Portland dog show. Some mighty fru fru going on there today. We watched the winningest Newfoundland dog in the country win today and talked to his co-handler throughout the showing. Fascinating to get a little behind-the-scenes poop. Huey was the dog's name and he'll be going to Westminster next month and will hopefully win there again, as he's done in the past. Lots of fun, but now it's football time.

[NewfoundlandFrog]

purpledawg, on 22 January 2012 - 03:18 PM, said:

Just came back from the Portland dog show. Some mighty fru fru going on there today. We watched the winningest Newfoundland dog in the country win today and talked to his co-handler throughout the showing. Fascinating to get a little behind-the-scenes poop. Huey was the dog's name and he'll be going to Westminster next month and will hopefully win there again, as he's done in the past. Lots of fun, but now it's football time.

The Newfoundland competitions where they save people in the water (what they were bred for) are incredibly fun to watch. They are amazing in the water and even have webbed feet.

From wikipedia:

Newfoundlands ('Newfs', 'Newfies') have webbed feet and a water-resistant coat.^[2]  Males weigh 60–70 kg (130–150 lb), and females 45–55 kg (100–120 lb),  placing them in the "Giant" weight range. Some Newfoundland dogs have  been known to weigh over 90 kg (200 lb). The largest Newfoundland on  record weighed 120 kg (260 lbs) and measured over 6 feet from nose to  tail, ranking it among the biggest Molossers. They may grow up to 22–28 inches tall at the shoulder.

The American Kennel Club  (AKC) standard colors of the Newfoundland dogs are: black, brown, gray,  and landseer (white dog with black markings) Other colors are not rare,  and not recommended due to breeding double recessive genes; The Kennel Club (KC) permits only black, brown, and landseer; the Canadian Kennel Club (CKC) permits are only black and landseer. Contrary to popular belief The Landseer is named after the artist Sir Edwin Henry Landseer, who featured them in many of his paintings. AKC, CKC, and KC all treat Landseer as part of the breed. Fédération Cynologique Internationale  (FCI) consider the ECT Landseer to be a separate breed; as do the AKC,  and the CKC. It is a taller, more narrow white dog with black markings  not bred with a Newfoundland.

The Newfoundland's extremely large bones give it mass, while its  large musculature gives it the power it needs to take on rough ocean  waves and powerful tides. These dogs have great lung capacity for  swimming extremely long distances, and a thick, oily and waterproof  double coat which protects them from the chill of icy waters. The droopy  lips and jowls make the dog drool.

In the water, the dog's massive webbed paws give it maximum  propulsion. The swimming stroke is not an ordinary dog paddle. Unlike  other dogs, the Newfoundland moves its limbs in a down-and-out motion,  which can be seen as a modified breaststroke. This gives it more power with every stroke. ...

...Many tales have been told of the courage displayed by Newfoundlands in  adventuring and lifesaving exploits. Over the last two centuries, this  has inspired a number of artists, who have portrayed the dogs in paint,  stone, bronze and porcelain. One famous Newfoundland was a dog named  Seaman, who accompanied American explorers Lewis and Clark on their expedition.

[purpledawg]

NewfoundlandFrog, on 22 January 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

He's an exceptionally happy Newfie.

[NewfoundlandFrog]

purpledawg, on 22 January 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:

He's an exceptionally happy Newfie.

They are an exceptionally happy breed. Unlike St. Bernard's to which they have some relationships, I have never seen one bark in anger.  Ever.

Wiki again...

The Newfoundland dog is legendary for its calm and docile nature and its  strength.They are incredibly loyal and make incredible working dogs. It  is for this reason that this breed is known as "the gentle giant".  International kennel clubs generally describe the breed as having a sweet temper. ...

"The man they had got now was a jolly, light-hearted, thick-headed sort  of a chap, with about as much sensitiveness in him as there might be in a  Newfoundland puppy. You might look daggers at him for an hour and he  would not notice it, and it would not trouble him if he did." Jerome K. Jerome Three Men in a Boat

[oldscribe]

NewfoundlandFrog, on 22 January 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

The Newfoundland competitions where they save people in the water (what they were bred for) are incredibly fun to watch. They are amazing in the water and even have webbed feet.

From wikipedia:

Newfoundlands ('Newfs', 'Newfies') have webbed feet and a water-resistant coat.^[2]  Males weigh 60–70 kg (130–150 lb), and females 45–55 kg (100–120 lb),  placing them in the "Giant" weight range. Some Newfoundland dogs have  been known to weigh over 90 kg (200 lb). The largest Newfoundland on  record weighed 120 kg (260 lbs) and measured over 6 feet from nose to  tail, ranking it among the biggest Molossers. They may grow up to 22–28 inches tall at the shoulder.

The American Kennel Club  (AKC) standard colors of the Newfoundland dogs are: black, brown, gray,  and landseer (white dog with black markings) Other colors are not rare,  and not recommended due to breeding double recessive genes; The Kennel Club (KC) permits only black, brown, and landseer; the Canadian Kennel Club (CKC) permits are only black and landseer. Contrary to popular belief The Landseer is named after the artist Sir Edwin Henry Landseer, who featured them in many of his paintings. AKC, CKC, and KC all treat Landseer as part of the breed. Fédération Cynologique Internationale  (FCI) consider the ECT Landseer to be a separate breed; as do the AKC,  and the CKC. It is a taller, more narrow white dog with black markings  not bred with a Newfoundland.

The Newfoundland's extremely large bones give it mass, while its  large musculature gives it the power it needs to take on rough ocean  waves and powerful tides. These dogs have great lung capacity for  swimming extremely long distances, and a thick, oily and waterproof  double coat which protects them from the chill of icy waters. The droopy  lips and jowls make the dog drool.

In the water, the dog's massive webbed paws give it maximum  propulsion. The swimming stroke is not an ordinary dog paddle. Unlike  other dogs, the Newfoundland moves its limbs in a down-and-out motion,  which can be seen as a modified breaststroke. This gives it more power with every stroke. ...

...Many tales have been told of the courage displayed by Newfoundlands in  adventuring and lifesaving exploits. Over the last two centuries, this  has inspired a number of artists, who have portrayed the dogs in paint,  stone, bronze and porcelain. One famous Newfoundland was a dog named  Seaman, who accompanied American explorers Lewis and Clark on their expedition.

that's why I call an urf-urf dog....opposite of fru-fru...

[frogtwang]

purpledawg, on 30 January 2012 - 11:10 PM, said:

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Yes, I use fish oil for extra omega 3. Helps everything work better.

I'm going to look into the Glyco-Flex III. Thanks for the suggestion. Do you give the treats or the tablets?

She's starting to favor her left side(and right side some, but not as much) when she gets up from a nap or from sleeping. Once she gets moving and works out the soreness she seems to be fine. Makes me second guess and almost regret putting her through the pains of surgery since she's still having the arthritic symptoms. Hind sight is always 20/20, I suppose.

I now know to do better research when selecting a pure breed. I knew she was going to be big, but wasn't expecting 120 lbs big. She's so sweet though. Labs are amazing dogs. So people friendly, she only wants to please. When I take her to the dog park she has to go say hello to all the humans before playing with the other dogs.

[frogtwang]

NewfoundlandFrog, on 22 January 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

The Newfoundland competitions where they save people in the water (what they were bred for) are incredibly fun to watch. They are amazing in the water and even have webbed feet.

Newfies and Labs are very similar, both originate from the St John's Water dog.

From wikipedia


History

Nell – A St. John's Water Dog circa 1856

The modern Labrador's ancestors originated on the island of Newfoundland, now part of the province of Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada.^[8] The founding breed of the Labrador was the St. John's Water Dog, a breed that emerged through ad-hoc breedings by early settlers of the island in the 16th century.^[8] The forebears of the St. John's Dog are not known, but were likely a random-bred mix of English, Irish, and Portuguese working breeds. The Newfoundland (known then as the Greater Newfoundland) is likely a result of the St. John's Dog breeding with mastiffs brought to the island by the generations of Portuguese fishermen who had been fishing offshore since the 16th century. The smaller short-coated St. John's Dog (also known then as the Lesser Newfoundland) was used for retrieval and pulling in nets from the water. These smaller dogs were the forebears of the Labrador Retriever. The white chest, feet, chin, and muzzle - known as tuxedo markings - characteristic of the St. John's Dog often appear in modern Lab mixes, and will occasionally manifest in Labradors as a small white spot on the chest (known as a medallion) or stray white hairs on the feet or muzzle.

The St. John's area of Newfoundland was settled mainly by the English and Irish. Local fishermen originally used the St. John's dog to assist in carrying ropes between boats, towing dories, and helping to retrieve fishnets in the water. The Labrador's loyalty and hard working behaviour were valuable assets for fishermen.^[9]

A number of St. John's Dogs were brought back to the Poole area of England in the early 19th century,^[8] then the hub of the Newfoundland fishing trade, by the gentry, and became prized as sporting and waterfowl hunting dogs.^[8] A few kennels breeding these grew up in England; at the same time a combination of sheep protection policy (Newfoundland) and rabies quarantine (England) led to their gradual demise in their country of origin.^[10]

A surviving picture of Buccleuch Avon (b.1885), a foundational dog of many modern Labrador lineages.

The first and second Earls of Malmesbury, who bred for duck shooting on his estate,^[11] and the 5th and 6th Dukes of Buccleuch, and youngest son Lord George William Montagu-Douglas-Scott,^[11] were instrumental in developing and establishing the modern Labrador breed in 19th century England. The dogs Avon ("Buccleuch Avon") and Ned given by Malmesbury to assist the Duke of Buccleuch's breeding program in the 1880s are considered the ancestors of modern Labradors.^[12]

The first St. John's dog was said to be brought to England around 1820; however, the breed's reputation had spread to England long before. There is a story that the Earl of Malmesbury saw a St. John's Dog on a fishing boat and immediately made arrangements with traders to have some of these dogs exported to England. These ancestors of the first labradors so impressed the Earl with their skill and ability for retrieving anything within the water and on shore that he devoted his entire kennel to developing and stabilizing the breed.^[9]

[Poison Arrow Frog]

oldscribe, on 22 January 2012 - 04:06 PM, said:

that's why I call an urf-urf dog....opposite of fru-fru...

I love Newfies, they are so friendly!  

Just big babies.....