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#1 TopFrog

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 05:33 AM

Deseret News: NCAA is using APR scores to make coaches think about academics
                                                
By Dick Harmon
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It's all about the student-athlete. Put the emphasis on student, right?

Now that we've got that clear, the NCAA is poised to take it's Academic Progress Report — a tool that reveals just how accurately student-athletes are progressing in school, grades and toward graduation — and make coaches accountable.

It may or may not be fair ...
                                            


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Posted 06 July 2010 - 07:49 AM

QUOTE(TopFrog @ Jul 6 2010, 06:33 AM) View Post
Deseret News: NCAA is using APR scores to make coaches think about academics
                                                
By Dick Harmon
Deseret News

It's all about the student-athlete. Put the emphasis on student, right?

Now that we've got that clear, the NCAA is poised to take it's Academic Progress Report — a tool that reveals just how accurately student-athletes are progressing in school, grades and toward graduation — and make coaches accountable.

It may or may not be fair ...


I have a different and much more cynical take on the APR. This is a desperate attempt by the NCAA to persuade Congress that NCAA sports deserve to keep federal tax exempt status. It's a diversion from the reality of college sports - the BCS, the money grubbing, the unfair revenue distribution, the anti-competitive activity. "But Senator, college sports is all about the student athlete, we require them to make academic progress."

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 08:09 AM

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I have a different and much more cynical take on the APR. This is a desperate attempt by the NCAA to persuade Congress that NCAA sports deserve to keep federal tax exempt status. It's a diversion from the reality of college sports - the BCS, the money grubbing, the unfair revenue distribution, the anti-competitive activity. "But Senator, college sports is all about the student athlete, we require them to make academic progress."



Tin foil hat alert.

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 08:24 AM

QUOTE(JimSwinkLives! @ Jul 6 2010, 09:09 AM) View Post
Tin foil hat alert.


I'll consider the source.

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 08:40 AM

QUOTE(JimSwinkLives! @ Jul 6 2010, 09:09 AM) View Post
Tin foil hat alert.


Maybe the House Ways and Means Committee should be wearing tin foil hats as well? Letter to Myles Brand from 2006.

http://coia.comm.psu.edu/News%20of%20inter...%20Oct%2006.pdf



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Posted 06 July 2010 - 09:14 AM

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Maybe the House Ways and Means Committee should be wearing tin foil hats as well? Letter to Myles Brand from 2006.

http://coia.comm.psu.edu/News%20of%20inter...%20Oct%2006.pdf



The APR initiative was developed long before that letter was ever conceived without the slighest hint of anything other than academics in mind. As someone who was an athletics administrator at a DI institution at the time, I was involved in the early development of APR, and I can assure you my friend that nothing even remotely approaching the crazy, tin foil hat conspiracy nonsense you're suggesting was ever mentioned.

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 09:17 AM

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The APR initiative was developed long before that letter was ever conceived. Try again.


I don't think the concerns started with that letter. Give me a break.

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 09:21 AM

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I don't think the concerns started with that letter. Give me a break.



I don't give a break or cut any slack to utter nincompoop, childish nonsense. Unless its gdu, which in that case I simply ignore for fear of my IQ being lowered while reading his posts.

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 09:23 AM

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I don't give a break or cut any slack to utter nincompoop, childish nonsense. Unless its gdu, which in that case I simply ignore for fear of my IQ being lowered while reading his posts.


Something obviously hits close to home here. And you suggest I should be wearing a tin foil hat? Wow. BTW, interestingly, the first warning letters regarding APR performance didn't go out until 2007.

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 09:27 AM

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Something obviously hits close to home here. And you suggest I should be wearing a tin foil hat? Wow. BTW, interestingly, the first warning letters regarding APR performance didn't go out until 2007.



You need to loosen the elastic band on your tin foil hat, its obviously cutting the flow of blood to your brain. wacko.gif

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 09:32 AM

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You need to loosen the elastic band on your tin foil hat, its obviously cutting the flow of blood to your brain. wacko.gif


It's not as tight as your NCAA hat.

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 09:35 AM

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It's not as tight as your NCAA hat.



What? Thats it? You've got over 6,000 posts and that's all you came back with? I'm disappointed, Dogfrog. biggrin.gif

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Posted 06 July 2010 - 12:10 PM

The nice thing about organizations is that the avowed purpose for doing something need not correspond to the real purpose. In a sufficiently complex organization, one can rely on do-gooders to start the ball rolling on projects that provide cover for more nefarious purposes. This works even if the do-gooders are a rival faction within the organization.
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