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[George F. Will]

Is it too late for any of them to declare for the NFL draft?

[BABYFACE]

Brock has the ability, but no one is going to draft him with  a possible felony conviction looming. Even if that doesn't happen and a lesser charge or acquittal , I dont think a team is going to risk a draft pick and money on him right now IMO. Try to make a team as a free agent for the rookie minimum is his route now if and when his legal issues are resolved.

[InterestedObserver]

I would imagine they will take a year off to handle their legal issues, then go the small college route to play out any remaining eligibility.   Doubtful they get significant jail-time for these offenses, but that's just my un-educated opinion.

Plenty of guys in the NFL with longer rap-sheets than these guys.

[Big Frog II]

I am going to throw out this "Grassy Knoll".  What happens if all of the arrests are thrown out because of sloppy police work?  Don't think it will happen, but some of the attorneys interviewed have alluded to that possibility.

[HFrog1999]

Big Frog II, on 27 February 2012 - 08:40 AM, said:

I am going to throw out this "Grassy Knoll".  What happens if all of the arrests are thrown out because of sloppy police work?  Don't think it will happen, but some of the attorneys interviewed have alluded to that possibility.

Well, if the school and the media hadn't decided to splatter their names and pictures all over the country, they'd at least have a chance to come back if it turned out that they were not guilty.  Instead, the Police and School thought it'd be a good idea to declare them guilty in the court of public opinion and end any chance that they would've had at finishing their careers at TCU.

[chhspantherfan]

HFrog1999, on 27 February 2012 - 09:00 AM, said:

Well, if the school and the media hadn't decided to splatter their names and pictures all over the country, they'd at least have a chance to come back if it turned out that they were not guilty.  Instead, the Police and School thought it'd be a good idea to declare them guilty in the court of public opinion and end any chance that they would've had at finishing their careers at TCU.

I agree wholeheartedly. With a little hindsight, I would think some of the key players in the media firestorm think the same way.

[Endless Purple]

If the case is thrown out from a paperwork error, it does not mean they did not do what they were accused of.  The school would need to be sure they were not doing anything they should not have, IMO.

I am more concerned with having the right people/players represent TCU, than a technicality representing the school.

[BABYFACE]

I think a few of the player's remarks in the affadavits shows that is better they remain seperated from TCU. It also sends a message to the current members on the FB team.

[HFrog1999]

Endless Purple, on 27 February 2012 - 09:16 AM, said:

If the case is thrown out from a paperwork error, it does not mean they did not do what they were accused of.  The school would need to be sure they were not doing anything they should not have, IMO.

I am more concerned with having the right people/players represent TCU, than a technicality representing the school.

If Patterson knew a player was dealing drugs, I don't doubt that he'd kick them off the team whether they were convicted or not.  

And, while I doubt these players were innocent, on the slim chance that they are, the police and school already screwed up their chances of playing again with the big media firestorm.  The cop already got one suspect wrong, what if he missidentified Brock?  I'm not saying he did, I'm just saying that they shouldn't have convicted him during the press conference.

[Endless Purple]

HFrog1999, on 27 February 2012 - 09:31 AM, said:

The cop already got one suspect wrong, what if he missidentified Brock?  I'm not saying he did, I'm just saying that they shouldn't have convicted him during the press conference.

I don't disagree with that.

I think if there was a press release stating an error was made and he is the victim of mistaken identity, he would be quickly redeemed, plus get more press coverage for himself as well once the season started.  I think people would be quick to welcome him back to the ranks of the innocent - people have short memories now-a-days.

[Opintel]

A bunch of (alleged) "Knuckleheads", plus terrible handling of the case by the fuzz...and, ill-advised comments by our Admin...piling-on by the media and other stupid stuff.

What a revolting development this is.

[HFrog1999]

Opintel, on 27 February 2012 - 10:53 AM, said:

A bunch of (alleged) "Knuckleheads", plus terrible handling of the case by the fuzz...and, ill-advised comments by our Admin...piling-on by the media and other stupid stuff.

What a revolting development this is.

[Spike]

Big Frog II, on 27 February 2012 - 08:40 AM, said:

I am going to throw out this "Grassy Knoll".  What happens if all of the arrests are thrown out because of sloppy police work?  Don't think it will happen, but some of the attorneys interviewed have alluded to that possibility.

That's just the defense attorneys doing their job. They will latch on to whatever they can to create reasonable doubt.

[Army Frog Fan]

As I have said before, one of the highest paid NFL players is a convicted felon.  If Brock can play, he will be on someone's roster.

[HFrog1999]

Army Frog Fan, on 27 February 2012 - 04:51 PM, said:

As I have said before, one of the highest paid NFL players is a convicted felon.  If Brock can play, he will be on someone's roster.

It's not the arrest that's going to hurt him, it's sitting out last year due to injury and then not being able to play next year.

[Opintel]

HFrog1999, on 27 February 2012 - 04:53 PM, said:

It's not the arrest that's going to hurt him, it's sitting out last year due to injury and then not being able to play next year.

Very good point.

[steelfrog]

Pay him money

[PurplePainD]

You guys don't think most everyone arrested sung like a canary while in custody?  Long before daddy called a lawyer or they got bailed out, I bet these guys spilled their guts trying to get out of a jam.  Probably more true of the non-football players, but still...

[Kaiser]

PurplePainD, on 27 February 2012 - 05:36 PM, said:

You guys don't think most everyone arrested sung like a canary while in custody?  Long before daddy called a lawyer or they got bailed out, I bet these guys spilled their guts trying to get out of a jam.  Probably more true of the non-football players, but still...

I doubt it. The police were never interested in getting these guys to flip on "their suppliers". I'd be surprised if any of them were ever formally interviewed while in custody.

[Opintel]

Kaiser, on 27 February 2012 - 06:28 PM, said:

I doubt it. The police were never interested in getting these guys to flip on "their suppliers". I'd be surprised if any of them were ever formally interviewed while in custody.

I thought there were hydroponics being used by certain suspects...therefore, no "suppliers".  That's not for any except the Football players.  Am I wrong?